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  My interest in this revised NWT

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biases of the earlier iteration of the nwt have been known and discussed from the appearance of the first appearance in 1950, and i assume the revised edition will be affected by the same prejudicial biases.

  one can cynically subscribe to the view that this is a financial bonanza and possibly a distraction from the imminent centenary of that distant significant date.. my interest will be to see how the impact of this revision evolves, particularly in the area of the wts's support material and on the impact its release will have on witnesses.

  some preliminary thoughts are:.

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  Doug Mason

  Julia,

  If your JW friend is upset about changes, maybe he might find these Studies of mine of use:

  http://www.jwstudies.com/How_do_we_know_that_our_copies_of_the_Scriptures_are_authentic.pdf

  http://www.jwstudies.com/We_can_be_sure.pdf

  Doug
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  My interest in this revised NWT

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biases of the earlier iteration of the nwt have been known and discussed from the appearance of the first appearance in 1950, and i assume the revised edition will be affected by the same prejudicial biases.

  one can cynically subscribe to the view that this is a financial bonanza and possibly a distraction from the imminent centenary of that distant significant date.. my interest will be to see how the impact of this revision evolves, particularly in the area of the wts's support material and on the impact its release will have on witnesses.

  some preliminary thoughts are:.

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  Doug Mason

  OTWO,

  Apologies for the way my mind works. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with it.

  You made me smile, anyway.

  Doug
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  My interest in this revised NWT

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biases of the earlier iteration of the nwt have been known and discussed from the appearance of the first appearance in 1950, and i assume the revised edition will be affected by the same prejudicial biases.

  one can cynically subscribe to the view that this is a financial bonanza and possibly a distraction from the imminent centenary of that distant significant date.. my interest will be to see how the impact of this revision evolves, particularly in the area of the wts's support material and on the impact its release will have on witnesses.

  some preliminary thoughts are:.

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  3. 
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  Doug Mason

  Julia,

  Thank you.

  Doug
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  My interest in this revised NWT

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the biases of the earlier iteration of the nwt have been known and discussed from the appearance of the first appearance in 1950, and i assume the revised edition will be affected by the same prejudicial biases.

  one can cynically subscribe to the view that this is a financial bonanza and possibly a distraction from the imminent centenary of that distant significant date.. my interest will be to see how the impact of this revision evolves, particularly in the area of the wts's support material and on the impact its release will have on witnesses.

  some preliminary thoughts are:.

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  Doug Mason

  The biases of the earlier iteration of the NWT have been known and discussed from the appearance of the first appearance in 1950, and I assume the revised edition will be affected by the same prejudicial biases. One can cynically subscribe to the view that this is a financial bonanza and possibly a distraction from the imminent centenary of that distant significant date.

  My interest will be to see how the impact of this revision evolves, particularly in the area of the WTS's support material and on the impact its release will have on Witnesses. Some preliminary thoughts are:

  1. Does the NT still accept the 27 NT books provided to it by the 4th century Trinitarian Church, including Athanasius and the Roman Emperors?

  2. Does the OT retain an allegiance to the Hebrew text or to the Septuagint (for example with Jeremiah, especially in regards to the "70 years")?

  3. Will it say the changes are due to a better understanding, to Lower Criticism, additional information since the last release of the NWT, to recognition that the MSS evidence shows that the text is unreliable and has to be reconstructed by Lower Critics?

  4. Which text(s) does the revised NWT rely on (eg., Westcott-Hort; Textus Receptus; MT; variety of LXX), or had it constructed its own source from a selection from many sources (eclectic)?

  5. How will the WTS manage the transition from the previous version to this one?

  6. Will any JW prefer to refer to the earlier version? If so, what will the WTS's attitude be to those who do not change over?

  7. Will the over familiarity with the earlier text unnerve any? (Over time, they managed to wean a previous generation on to their translation).

  Mostly, I guess I am interested in the last question; so I would like to hear any anecdotal evidence (not assumptions or hearsay).

  Can anyone tell me how I may obtain a soft copy of the revised NWT as well as any supporting material produced by the WTS?

  Doug
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  “How can we be sure the Bible has not been changed?”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at page 63 of its book, reasoning from the scriptures, the watchtower society poses the question: how can we be sure the bible has not been changed?.

  the reasoning book opens its response with a citation from a book written in 1929: the bible from the beginning by p. marion simms.. i have prepared a study that examines whether the reasoning from the scriptures book accurately presents the position presented by simms in his book.. http://www.jwstudies.com/we_can_be_sure.pdf.

  does simm's book really say that we can be sure the bible has not been changed?.

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  Doug Mason

  bats,

  Whether the WTS's truth is out of date or not is irrelevent. The issue is whether the WTS handles facts honestly.

  If age makes a truth into a lie, then why did the "Reasoning" book cite a book that was already 60 years old and more recent facts were available, especially with the finds in 1947.

  Which WTS book has replaced the "Aid" and "Reasoning" books?

  Doug
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  “How can we be sure the Bible has not been changed?”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at page 63 of its book, reasoning from the scriptures, the watchtower society poses the question: how can we be sure the bible has not been changed?.

  the reasoning book opens its response with a citation from a book written in 1929: the bible from the beginning by p. marion simms.. i have prepared a study that examines whether the reasoning from the scriptures book accurately presents the position presented by simms in his book.. http://www.jwstudies.com/we_can_be_sure.pdf.

  does simm's book really say that we can be sure the bible has not been changed?.

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  Doug Mason

  I suggest you read my Study. My purpose is to investigate whether the "Reasoning" book correctly represented the book by Rev. Paris Marion Simms.

  A major issue that flows from this Study does relate to the nature of the Bible, but the primary objective is to show that once again the WTS deceives, that it misquotes, that it misrepresents.

  When I searched the www for information on the book by Simms, I constantly encountered this misquotation from the "Reasoning" book. Hopefully my Study will introduce honesty into the discussion.

  It is not surprising that the author of this item in the "Reasoning" book cited a book published in 1929. At the time (1985, 1989), it would have been nigh impossible to verify the source; the situation is very different today.

  This misquoting, misrepresenting of Simms' book is yet another example of the WTS's constant and deliberate mishandling of truth; we have encountered it in areas such as their neo-Babylonian chronology and with the medical use of parts of blood. The situation described in this Study relates to the nature of the Bible. A significant problem for many Christians is their desire to protect it, with many even calling it "The Word of God". Having that bias makes it difficult for those people to run an objective discussion with the defenders of the WTS.

  Doug
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  “How can we be sure the Bible has not been changed?”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at page 63 of its book, reasoning from the scriptures, the watchtower society poses the question: how can we be sure the bible has not been changed?.

  the reasoning book opens its response with a citation from a book written in 1929: the bible from the beginning by p. marion simms.. i have prepared a study that examines whether the reasoning from the scriptures book accurately presents the position presented by simms in his book.. http://www.jwstudies.com/we_can_be_sure.pdf.

  does simm's book really say that we can be sure the bible has not been changed?.

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  Doug Mason

  At page 63 of its book, “Reasoning from the Scriptures”, the Watchtower Society poses the question: “How can we be sure the Bible has not been changed?”

  The “Reasoning” book opens its response with a citation from a book written in 1929: The Bible From the Beginning by P. Marion Simms.

  I have prepared a Study that examines whether the “Reasoning from the Scriptures” book accurately presents the position presented by Simms in his book.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/We_can_be_sure.pdf

  Does Simm's book really say that “we can be sure the Bible has not been changed”?

  Doug
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  Discussion w/ Wife: I Welcome Your Suggestions

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so these last few wts have definitely eroded my wife's faith in the org.

  she is definitely seeing the bs, and i even overheard her talking openly about it to a family member.

  good for her!.

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  Doug Mason

  If your wife wants to prove that the organisation is peaceful and loving, that it does not wage warfare, then tell her to spend the next month attending services at churches of varying denominations and religions.

  Then let her see how peacefully it deals with her.

  At the same time, she might see how this peaceful organisation rips families apart, how it kills innocent children and parents because of its lies over the medical use of some parts of blood.

  If she still thinks that waging war against their own people is peace, then she has real problems.

  Is it real peace to have a God who will destroy billions of people because they have not read the Watchtower?

  Doug
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  SURVEY QUESTIONs

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm on the brink of publishing my book.

  here are some survey questions that will help me make some important decisions.. if you were ever going to actually buy a book about an ex-jehovah's witness conscientious objector who went to prison, would you:.

  a. prefer the book to be 8 1/2 x 11 ?.

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  Doug Mason

  There should be little need for an Audio Book, since a PDF Reader program can read a file out aloud. Depending on the PDF prgram, the option is available under the Menu heading of "View" or "Tools".

  Doug
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  I am looking for scans from a book

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does somone have a library handy that holds the book: "the bible from the beginning" (new york 1929) by p. marion simms?

  i have searched here in melbourne without success, and its exorbitant price tag means it won't be sitting on my bookshelf.

  if you can find a copy, i need scans of pages 74 to 76. it would be even better if i could obtain scans of the immediate context.

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  Doug Mason

  Pterist,

  Thanks. Interesting. I look forward to seeing the book when it arrives, which usually takes 2 to 3 weeks from USA.

  A porime example of selective quoting of course, since more recent discoveries, such as in 1947, blow these ideas out of the water.

  I am stewing on an idea which means I need to find a copy of "Reasoning from the Scriptures", or at least pages 63 and 195 (and their immediate contexts). Time to make another search.

  Doug